60-100 years in, I'm spreading my glorious color galaxy wide, absorbing any independent empire that likes me, and you bet they'll like me. Later on when I'm on repeatable tech I cede to get 100 % of the minerals and energy credits unless the enemy is on the butt end of the galaxy or has. Fluffy-Tanuki • 21 days ago. Especially as your 1st and 2nd subject, a Tributary can give you so incredibly amount of resources. I RP that the overlords install some of their leaders onto their vassal's planets to look over. Currently bigger empires (ie conquest) is just stronger due to the fact that you can just increase your empire sprawl endlessly (ie no science loss from bigger empires) and the ai has weird ship designs and uses buildings suboptimally. Then again I'm running Glavious AI which doesn't seem to improve the AI that much (granted, there are 2 "equivalent" normal empires in 2400 and one of my federation members just quit the. They are a Tributary that can build its own fleet and has a max tax rate lower than that of a tributary. would like to know too!! #1. I remember them doing this pre-2. If you want to split another one, start a war for a tributary or vassal. war, peace, etc. If you are ok micromanaging, you can incorporate them, gene mod and fix their planets, then release as a vassal again. That's every major, and most minor, DLC. 7. A secret fealty vassal I just got started as a bulwark after being fully vassalized, but I'd rather have a regular vassal instead. Since you can do contract negotiations, there shouldn't be any difference right because you can just set all the categories to the same setting right? How to make vassals/tributary. . Subscribe to downloadVassals and Tributaries - Exalted Domination [2. If you drop a 600 influence cost vassalage negotiation on current vassal that has only 400 influence in their stockpile, they won't be able to refuse. As a megacorp, you are mostly making tributary vassal requests, so you get a basic resources boost, utilizing 30% of the vassals economy, only furthering your economy to easily vassalize more and more. See screenshots for new tradition effects. They get 80% reduced tech costs on every tech you've researched. Join. 9 ‘Caelum’ is Out, What’s. Now your tributary gives you energy and minerals, add part of their naval cap to the federation fleet, and they're pulled into any wars you're involved in, because they count as federation members. Secondly the Vassal pays 25% of it's Mineral and Energy income to the overlord. Irbynx. All that said, Protectorates are by far the best subject type to stock up on, for that sweet +0. I'd only use liberation if you plan as retaining them as a vassal, although do note that empires will. 36 comments. I tried increasing the AI difficulty and scaling so they get more bonuses to their planets, didn't work either. Whereas a tributary simply. Stellaris Military system needs a rework to make Warfare fun in all stages and with all power discrepancy. Stellaris > General Discussions > Topic Details. As a player vassal you don't even get alerts to your AI overlord annexing you. You can declare war on their master and set the terms to liberate their vassal. This pairs quite. Mr-H-Saether • 5 mo. Since the massive update that bumped the version number of Stellaris above 2, the nature of how you declare war has changed. Since it was accounting for these bonuses when it originally built its economy it is no longer able to afford the upkeep on its own buildings and is immediately. However, vassals do drain your influence and cost even more to integrate. There you can choose which type of vassal to propose to make them. You have to select the correct wargoal when you're declaring war. You need at least one non-subject member to start the federation. Whereas a tributary simply cannot be attacked by you and pays you protection money. #3. Other than that, as a vassal or tributary you can't freely stop being a vassal. As long as there is at least one empire present that is not Fanatic Pacifist, war is an almost inevitable aspect in any game and can be anything from a small border skirmish to a massive interstellar war of conquest. 1 Answer. When I get into late I declare war on them and make them a vassal, then integrate them. Most importantly, some empires don't want to be a certain kinds of vassal types. If you're going aggressive. They are probably more useful in one of the next patches due to tributary states and maybe some other changes (which is. Name your federation Kow-Tow Federation(or something suitable) if you are a Celestial Empire or Tributary Gang if you are like me. 4. g. This is just one component of this incredibly complex game; there’s plenty more to learn as you strive to conquer the galaxy. Build them up and let them get a fleet in proportion to yours. Vassal Contracts are a massive new feature of the Stellaris 3. Except maybe espionage that causes a political incident. The benefits of a tributary vs a standard vassal in 3. Tributaries and vassals are just two different types of subject empires, alongside protectorates, subsidiaries and others. • 7 mo. e. Meaning if you dont win fast enough, you can actually lose against it due to ticking warscore. Due to the guarantee and Subject Relationship, Trust grows quickly up to 100. Reply. Most empires will have Vassal/Tributary as options. Learn more about Stellaris: Overlord DLC here - new Overlord DLC for. . The integration only took 22 months. I'll be discussing what Vassals and Tributaries. See moreA vassal actually gets bonuses for serving under you in exchange for being subject to your diplomatic choices, i. Plus, if you've gotten said protectorate by doing something like. The diplomacy screen is where we communicate with other civilizations. For Stellaris 2. You grow when your vassals grow. Exploring and finding interesting new thingsFeudal is also the only way I know thus far that makes a 1 system play through possible. Gift them minerals, energy and if required, food. There should be a “Create Vassal” button in the bottom left corner. -25% minerals and energy to your vassal's fleet. 5. Conquest is better, but vassals are fun for role playing. Trouble is War declaration is NOT an event stellaris automatically pauses for by default. Select the target from the “Empires” tab, select “Communicate,” and then select “Declare War. Vassal states were common among the empires of. I faced inaccessibility of war for submission (as the vassal or the tributary), I send the offer "To offer the status of protectorate" or "To demand a tribute", any empire refuses (well, on a kraytsny measure while there are no concordants peacefully), then I come into options of declaration of war. Pretty sure there was an option to release vassal/tributary through diplomacy? Yeah I'm asking if there is a way to release a colony that you own into its own independent empire. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?Vassal play is primarily aimed at Tall, and while it "needed" it, it doesn't make it any less limited in scope. 1: To intergrate later. But the tributaries keep rebelling and I need to fight wars of conquest and. 4, but the quick trust growth means you can turn them into a protectorate/vassal pretty quickly. Now I would like to conquer my third enemy. if you want their territory you vassalize, if you want their energy credits and very much dont want to annex them you go tributary. 1;Which is better? To make a neighboring civ a tributary or a vassal? Pros/cons? Obviously, vassal gives naval capacity, what's better long term?Potent Rebellions has this. The extra credits really make that much of a difference. VicboyV • 7 yr. Targets are more likely to accept becoming certain subject types (such as tribal vassal or tributary status) over others (including feudatory and client status). That’s your window to declare. Unless we have special perk. Tributaries are great if you are playing tall, and need the resources to make up for your lack of planets. Stellaris Dev Diary #281 - A Message from Minamar Specialized Industries. So Materialist feudal playthroughs can be crazy good. In literally every game, around the year 2300 (midgame start), Rebel empires pop up in every single vassal like. See screenshots for new tradition effects. Thread starter ruffuska; Start date May 23, 2022; Jump to latest Follow Reply. 8) End that war in such a way that they become your vassal or tributary (if possible, by achieving your war goals, because a status quo may not give you all that you desire). Else turn them into a tributary if you can't afford to vassalize. Though not so much from a military angle. But i want to role play as an empire that rules core worlds while letting vassals rule in their stead but sadly their is no real benefit to vassalizing anyone apart from tributary (which makes feudal society useless. Food is minimal, and getting tributary after tributary can cover your economy for the most part. I don't really use the espionage system to know enough though. For the first 50 years, that is decent. I've beaten two of them recently, made one a tributary and the other one my vassal. Vassaling can make harder to conquer but not really if said vassals are in alliance with war controls. YobaiYamete • Nihilistic Acquisition • 1 yr. Open up the “Empires” tab, select the Empire you want to Vassalize, and click on the “Communicate” button. Tributaries cannot get integrated, so to get you tributary turn into a vassal you need to help them research faster. (since no empire wanted to be my vassal) and crushed almost all of the galaxy The thing is, since they can’t be protectorates,. Being a vassal in Stellaris is unequivocally being in a vulnerable position, at risk of being integrated for very little potential gains. Method 4: Liberation. thinking between vassal or tributary, if vassal it's 4k additional fleet power in wars (my combined is 8k), but unreliable when declaring wars, usually I want to have all fleet. 1. If your Ruler or Heir is "unmarried" you can marry an unmarried Ruler or Heir of the same species of a Vassal to for a massive opinion boost and a removal of the subject power penalty for as long as both live. ago. While the subordinate party is called a vassal, vassal state or tributary state, the dominant party is called a suzerain. Diplomacy screen, showing a situation where the player empire has little intel on the empire. I have positive relations and 100 loyalty. Last edited by esx9; Jun 9, 2019 @ 7:54pm #15 < > Showing 1-15 of 40 comments . The enemies you fight at that point where you would actually think of using AI help would obliterate AI ships so it's best to have them fund you. Protectorate is a special vassal type that any vassal will automatically convert to if they are far inferior than you in tech. So i was trying to finish of my current game, to get the slave acheivement, was deciding which of my vassal to integrate when bam the metal head i had vassalized in a war decided they didnt like being my vassal, and they brought all my other. Other Features: - All of the subject interaction features of the mod are handled through a new edict: Manage Subject States. Interesting…so i didnt make them a tributary, i declared a vassal war. You don't need the imperial government for the feudal society civic either. 9 ‘Caelum’ Patch Notes, and Ask Us Anything!Stellaris. Desiring to safeguard my race for the long haul, I became a tributary instead of a protectorate (I did not want to convert to a vassal and risk incorporation). Once it's explored, the two systems with an endpoint for the wormhole become adjacent from your fleet's perspective, so just. Select a planet within a Sector you control and navigate to the “Governor” screen. . Once a vassal hits the trust cap in an empire like this, release them. I don't really use the espionage system to know enough though. IMO tributaries are worth it in the early game. How to make vassals/tributary. I also checked the diplomatic and opinion maps. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?Imperial Spiritualist authoritarian, feudal and cult perks. . •. The inability to do so is one of the main weaknesses of the MegaCorp empire type. So I've been enjoying becoming a vassal of an AI empire for a while, my overlord is a member of a federation with me being incorporated into it. A number of factors influence vassal loyalty in Stellaris, from the terms of your original contract with the subject empire and the trade deals you broker with them, to whether you declare war on. Bochanks. Stellaris Allows: Feudal is also the only way I know thus far that makes a 1 system play through possible. Vassals can be lawful or the opposite in which case they will rebel if given the opportunity. Vassal states were common among the empires of the Near East, dating back to the era of the Egyptian, Hittite and Mitanni conflict, as well as ancient China. sounds like how a vassal empire would act if they weren't loyal Loyalty isn't a factor, or at least, the game-indicated Loyalty stat isn't a factor. Stellaris Real-time strategy Strategy video game Gaming comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A straga27 Necrophage •. Thread starter unmerged(350868) Start date Jul 10, 2021; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our. Vassals are legitimately just to gain territory without the big upfront influence cost of claims, other than that, tributaries give you 25% of their income but you can’t integrate them. Since you want the tributary to join your federation, I doubt this is the case, but nevertheless, waiting for them to turn into a vassal and being integrated is an option . 6 comments. An Overlord should be allowed to decide whether or not their subjects get to colonize and more or less carry on as they did before or if they're just subjects that are. This is Professor Stellaris and this is your crash course for Stellaris Console Edition Guide to. Best. The Groots btw are superior where as my previous overlords were in an inferior state by the end of the war. This is assuming that you’ve researched the L-Gate tech to activate it (separate tech from L-Gate Insights), and have scanned an actual L-Gate. -must first ask in diplomacy screen, then you have 1 year to declare war. You can easily rename your capital system, and so, you can easily rename your subjects. Stellaris Real-time strategy Strategy video game Gaming. More bang for your war bucks, let. Yea. This page was last edited on 7 June 2023, at 11:13. Stellaris Real-time strategy Strategy video game Gaming comments. They won’t agree. Currently bigger empires (ie conquest) is just stronger due to the fact that you can just increase your empire sprawl endlessly (ie no science loss from bigger empires) and the ai has weird ship designs and uses buildings suboptimally. Tributary gives you the full freedom, but doesn't give you the GP dev. Ist es besser, einen Tributpflichtigen oder Vasallen Stellaris zu haben? 2022. g. Does anyone have any input on how to change your subject from a tributary/tribal vassal to a feudatory subject in order to integrate them? The wiki does not give any answer. If I can make tributaries -> vassals and then diploannex them at a later date, I'm peachy. Lots of targets around, claim a few systems, make them a tributary. I don't believe that a vassal/tributary can have subjugates themselves so I would assume they become your vassal. This is Professor Stellaris and this is your crash course for Stellaris Console Edition Guide to Vassals and Tributaries. A vassal has still some use, even if their military support is questionable, e. Basically sectors that cost nothing but only give 25% of raw resources. After that kick someones ass with a goal for liberating a "Rival" Tributary(Your ethos) or a vassal/protectorate/standart tributary and a "Federation" Tributary. The cost of vassal integration needs to be many times bigger. And tributaries are just better vassals that pay their taxes and don't. I am looking for something that lets a nation be your subject and grant you their dev for GC, but simultaneously have the freedom to have alliances. Unless you use AI mod, standard AI either for enemy or ally like vassal have trouble filling their planets with buildings. When dealing with AI, them liking you enough will allow for trading for resources, planets(but you'll have a much better time doing planet trades in Endless Space 2), or having them become your tributary/vassal. Unless they're at war in which the option will be greyed out, or they're already someone else's. Subscribe. Pairs well with the +200 fleet cap ascension. Annexation occupies a diplomat until complete, and results in direct control of the former subject's territory and military. These are the basic subjugation types that you know from before, plus a few new ones, such as Vassal, Subsidiary, Tributary, Protectorate, Bulwark, and so on. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. Vassal, Subsidiary, Tributary, Protectorate, Bulwark, and so on. 1 This mod adds some flavor to pirates. 7: 0 to 225 Vassal limited to 45% maximum tax Subsidiary or Tributary cannot receive subsidy; Research Research 0 to −90 +3. I have 1 specialist vassal that changed from tributary (or subsidiary)but the option to do this it's too random to appear (cannot choose vassal types) even when asking to other empires to become vassals(i am stronger enough)3. To do this method, whoever you’re trying to make your Vassal must be at peace. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?11 votes, 18 comments. 9- Release the core sector of the former empire as a tributary. missing vassal war goal. Jun 9, 2019 @ 6:16pm Vassal system is broken. #4. Fluffy-Tanuki • 21 days ago. There’s no option to scroll. When subjugating an empire I only have 'tributary' as an option. I got 1984'd May 7, 2021 @ 4:08am. The inability to do so is one of the main weaknesses of the MegaCorp empire type. vassalization acceptance REALLY needs a rework. Creating vassals is intergral to good tall play atm. Description. From beginning on I had three neighboring, strong empires. Both work a bit differently. Vassal produces 50 engineering, 15% would be 7 (think they round down 7. Stellaris. . There is something to be said for 4X-style victory conditions, which. I dunno man, but it seems OP. Method 2: Demanding Vassalization. << Tributary is a mix of various effects. x and is still not updated with 3. The overlord can't curtail their expansion, doesn't interfere in any of their wars (and vice versa), the tributary simply feeds them resources. All systems captured, one but one planet is occupied. r/Stellaris. Yeah that makes sense, thanks a lot. Stellaris v3 version available here! This mod aims to improve the Domination tradition so that it is an appealing option at any stage of the game and also adds several new vassal and tributary types that are more evocative and useful to an overlord. Else liberate as many planets as you can to split up their empire. As the title says, is there any way to prevent this? I tried not overtaxing them with tributes, so they have enough resources to keep their planets in order, didn't work. If you can just take all the planets under the war score requirements then just conquer. Well, actually, it's relatively easy to make them accept to become a specialist vassal. You can chose between making them a Tributary or a Vassal (subsidiary if you are megacorp). Just turn all your non border and core systems into vassals and take the reduced research and unity costs. The only options are vassal and tributary. If you wanted to, just sit over their planets and bomb them to extinction then colonize. Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris. You can play an Imperialist with the Feudal Society pick much easier and enjoyable. The base cost is 20, increased by 10 for each pop and 50 for each planet. I am wondering what the cause of that is and if there is anything I can do to. Only one vassal can be integrated at a time. A subject is an empire that has limited autonomy and is subservient to another, usually strong empire, called the overlord. Then (to test) I let them both go. i have all the dlc and have tried restarting my game but idk what the. Vassals are useless in wars. Cost, size, upkeep everything to do with ships is peniltized by 50%. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the 4X grand strategy game Stellaris by Paradox Development Studio. In this video I am going to break down the basic ways that we can go to w. If you're not domineeringly powerful, vassal is a good choice to set them to follow your ships and act as extra power in most fights. (AIs consider going to war when [disloyal vassal power > overlord + loyal vassal power], over some multiple (1. So basically anything but a plain vassal. This is separate from the loyalty mechanic. Edit: says cannot build more than one. Endless Space 2 allows: Bribing empires to declare war on another empire you don't want to fight yourself. Subsidiaries only pay energy, while tributaries pay both energy and minerals. My vassal Megacorp wasn't even opening branch offices. 1. g. Stellaris. I played Stellaris for quite some time now. < >When trying to change my vassal into a specialist type, the option does not appear. . They are probably more useful in one of the. Stellaris is superior in this respect. Can’t remember if the system which has the L-Gate needs to be. 3. Having more planets (& pops) raises the cost of techs and now unities - as far as I know tributary/vassals do not. I have noticed on some empires I cannot visualise them, I can only make them a tributary. The big barrier that a lot of people on here seem to have is not knowing about the vassal/tributary casus. No no it was the other way round. They pay you tribute and that's it. This does not reflect. Presets have a list of default terms, and can have. The rights and. Possibly replaced by their overlord, or the galactic empire will just be dissolved (perhaps even have some kind of event where people panic because the protector-turned-ruler just got punted, that'd be pretty frightening)And you will almost certainly lose that war when a vassal is in a war with their overlord, the vassal passively just generates a ton of warscore without having to do anything. This article is for the PC version of Stellaris only. min. on the other you get this vassal/tributary mechanic preventing any surprise by making sure the subjugation candidate will either accept or be crushed, removing any real risk. How much information the screen offers depends on the Intel Level on the contacted empire: At the top we can see a recap of the other civ Empire, similar to player. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?A vassal also run the risk of a full diplomatic integration by their Overlord. You can easily rename your capital system, and so, you can easily rename your subjects. May 24, 2016 @ 4:20pm Originally posted by. They can be made plentiful or outright disabled via the galaxy generation options . It doesnt count towards occupation, thus forcing me to totally wipe them out of the face of the galaxy to end the war and making it impossible to actually create a vassal or. If you vassalize them you can turn them into a boost for your science or navy? Depends what you need more of I guess. < >Stellaris. improve the Domination tradition so that it is an appealing option at any stage of the game and also adds several new vassal and tributary types that are more evocative and. If having another prospectorium gives you more basic resources than you can use, then the entire premise of the thread is misaimed: both a prospectorium and a basic resource tributary would be bad choices. Do note that any vassal acquired prior to the activation of this mod will take up to a month to be transformed into a custom subject empire. Learn more about Stellaris: Overlord DLC here - new Overlord DLC for. The issue is when I declared an expel branch war against them it didn't work. I am pretty sure we had a commercial pact. Saying no to overlord contracts costs them influence, so by spamming the contract of them over and over they eventually run out and have to agree. This protection may include military support, diplomatic backing, or other forms of assistance. What are the pros and cons of doing this compared to just taking my chances of dying to the xenophobes?In Stellaris, becoming a vassal of a regular empire means gameover 99% of the time. Releasing vassals and forming federations with them. Yeah that’s probably one of my biggest sadnesses about stellaris, that you don’t have all that much obvious control over your subject empires, your ideas sound great but I’d also love to have at least a little direct control, like ordering your vassal to protect a specific system or build ships, I don’t like that you basically end up fighting wars alone with just. However, even after becoming a tributary and having diplomatic freedom, I can't declare war on my overlord as declaring a war againts them need the approval of their. But i only have 1 option. In the Contacts screen, the player can see a detailed list of all the empires they have encountered. 2. Stellaris Real-time strategy Strategy video game Gaming. If we had an overlord government in real life, the overlord could give out specific tasks to its vassals. Description. I have no idea on that. Secret Fealty Does Not Like Subject Type. This is Professor Stellaris and this is your crash course for Stellaris Console Edition Guide to. A vassal state is any state that has a mutual obligation to a superior state or empire, in a status similar to that of a vassal in the feudal system in medieval Europe. Vassallation. It's easy to completely ignore them, specially in the late game, when they are no more than a nuisance. Tributaries give 25% of their energy/minerals, which is okay, but the AI just might not be able to produce enough to make it worth it. ”. A vassal is kind of a 'extension' of your empire: you join each other in wars, they cannot expand or conduct indipendent diplomacy and they boost your naval strenght. You can't integrate them, you can't prohibit their expansion, you can't limit their diplomatic options, you can't build any holdings and you can't give them subsidiaries as their overlord. Which- if true- means that rather than fundamentally stop the 'vassal-integrate' system, vassal wars are still the best way to expand, and having integratable-vassals are the most profitable thing you. Therefore, managing vassals is crucial to the success of your empire in Stellaris. That's all. Last I checked, there is no means of "upgrading" a Tributary into a Vassal, so you have to defeat, make tributary, sit around and let them continue doing exactly what they've been doing all along except it makes you a little richer, then attack them again in the hopes that they. Yes you can´t integrate them but considering how scarce influence can be sometimes, having someone giving energy and minerals isn´t a bad choice. I've also heard this is the best way to get a vassal to agree to a special vassal status, by trading away heavy tributes for the status change. I recently conquered another civilization, and they are now a tributary vassal. Half the fun of Stellaris is roleplaying, IMO. The enemies you fight at that point where you would actually think of using AI help would obliterate AI ships so it's best to have them fund you. If you drop a 600 influence cost vassalage negotiation on current vassal that has only 400 influence in their stockpile, they won't be able to refuse. g. But it seems I can only purge them after taking their colonies. the subject gets the benifit of extremely large research bonuses towards military technology researched by its master. I am wondering what the cause of that is and if there is anything I can do to. -100 for vassaling and -100 for something like war at itself. ago. The bonus 30% to science is… well it’s nothing. Prospectorium advantage is that they will get bonus on basic, advance and strategic rerources, has chance to find deposit in space and will never be downgrade to protectorate but get nerf on science production. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. 70. This page was last edited on 7 June 2023, at 11:13. 5 influence. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. Right now the only worth while vassal is tributary as direct vassals are too weak and bring no benefit to be worth it. For Stellaris 2. It’s fine if you declared war. The game is quite a while back so not 100% sure of course. But all in all it's just meh. as a trading partner or a buffer zone. Their trust increases overtime and when they become lawful you don’t have to be anxious about it any more. Meaning the more you're winning against your tributary, the more war score your tributary will get against you. Not once was I able to make another empire a vassal or tributary through diplomacy. It adds a planetary decision called "Sow Unrest" that allows you to increase unrest in nearby empires, as well as a way to support nascent rebellions by donating resources and ships to their cause. Stellaris is a sci-fi grand strategy game set 200 years into the future. Stellaris desperately needs a threaten mechanic. The casus belli lasts only for a year. You can demmand far more resources from a tributary vs a normal vassal. Warfare. Forced submission: You automatically get a subjugation Casus Beli on any empire that is overall "inferior" to you in fleet, tech, and economic power. Upon gaining a vassal or tributary an overlord will be immediately prompted to choose a subject type with options based on their ethics. From Dev Diary #247. Prior to the most recent update, you could attack whatever opposing empire you liked. #3. Tributaries are cool. ”. I have a big fleet. Since you can stack anchorage star bases for increased naval cap, and because upkeep costs so much more now, the extra fleet cap from vassals is negligible compared to the extra resources from a tributary. For example, England and Scotland forming to create the. Then I turn on population controls, displace or purge them to make room for my species. Now about 50 years later I have everyone as a tributary or a vassal but my empire is getting bigger and bigger and everything gets more expensive. Select the target from the “Empires” tab, select “Communicate,” and then select “Declare War. the master gets a button labeled "request vassal forces" during a time of war which gives them control of the Vassals military until. Vassal: an autonomous empire which has been set up to support its master in military affairs. All subject types now grant a small degree of influence, which can be put. Tributaries themselves are kinda meh and supposedly pretty bugged in 1. Claims stuff on a different empire, make them a tributary. Most empires will have Vassal/Tributary as options. Or if they do, and there's a possibility to transition from a tributary contract to vassal contract, what happens if the liege isn't feudal? It doesn't seem like very intuitive design to build them off of a feudal mechanics when feudal realms are only one of the government types playable in the game. Even with constant resource gift, the AI still have trouble building their planets. The best way to play is to have as close to zero empire size whilst having the biggest science income. Make them vassals in the late game so you can integrate them or purge them. 806 14. Thread starter Abdulijubjub; Start date Apr 14, 2023; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu.